Marcus
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Post by Marcus on Feb 25, 2007 9:05:30 GMT 8
Shot a White Throat Kingfisher in Punggol Park this morning. heehee si bai heng! ;D #1  #2  #3  Thankyou for viewing. |
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Post by bigu2fan on Feb 25, 2007 23:53:07 GMT 8
Wah you've got a new 400mm toy, congrats! Looking forward to more photos from you.
I can see the noise very clearly. A cropping issue?
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Post by lowlights on Feb 26, 2007 2:17:02 GMT 8
Good shots .. think you need more reach.. too much cropping .. as bigu2fan said can see noise.. but still great shots.. nice
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Post by 28degree on Feb 26, 2007 14:03:46 GMT 8
not bad sia......
just got the 400mm then out pop one kingfisher for you to shoot.....
yeah...keep going man....
never feel down when you do not have any shot on anyday, is the many shots that follow tomorrow that keeps you going on....
go go go
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Post by Marcus on Feb 26, 2007 16:07:13 GMT 8
Wah you've got a new 400mm toy, congrats! Looking forward to more photos from you. I can see the noise very clearly. A cropping issue? Good shots .. think you need more reach.. too much cropping .. as bigu2fan said can see noise.. but still great shots.. nice not bad sia...... just got the 400mm then out pop one kingfisher for you to shoot..... yeah...keep going man.... never feel down when you do not have any shot on anyday, is the many shots that follow tomorrow that keeps you going on.... go go go Thanks guys, think that is beginner luck. Rare encounter in Punggol Park too. Next time will not be so lucky. The Kingfisher only park about 10 metre infront of me so I only crop the picture nv blowup the size. I was puzzle how come ISO 400 can give my so much noise! d**n! |
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Post by bigu2fan on Feb 26, 2007 16:13:15 GMT 8
The Kingfisher only park about 10 metre infront of me so I only crop the picture nv blowup the size. I was puzzle how come ISO 400 can give my so much noise! d**n! Keep going, looking forward to more pics. Can't give any advice on these long range zooms, but I notice a lot of difficulty taking sharp shots even for seasoned birders. Maybe next time if I do get into digiscaoping can join you:) |
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Post by USM on Feb 26, 2007 19:02:51 GMT 8
Marcus, it's a good attempt.
But like what you have mentioned, it was a purely by chance that you encountered the bird, so you aren't fully prepared.
Word of advice, when you spotted any Kingfishers, remember to approach it tactically, e.g. approach from his back. You need to understand how shy is KF and how fast it can detect humans present. Nevermind, through experience, you will know the habit of such bird, etc.
On top of that, avoid any branches and twists that are in your frame. You may not get a good background but at least don't let those twists, etc to block the front view.
We will talk more on this coming Friday Kopi Session.
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Post by lowlights on Feb 26, 2007 20:23:54 GMT 8
Bro.. I don't understanding, why ISO 400 ? This was shot in the early morning that should provide you with sufficent light to use a lower ISO  Beside.. ISO 400 should not be so noisy.. could it be that you USM it too much.. do realise that over USM will turn picture grainy.. |
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Post by Marcus on Feb 26, 2007 22:25:06 GMT 8
Bro.. I don't understanding, why ISO 400 ? This was shot in the early morning that should provide you with sufficent light to use a lower ISO Beside.. ISO 400 should not be so noisy.. could it be that you USM it too much.. do realise that over USM will turn picture grainy.. Image 1  TV setting 1/400 F5.6 ISO 400 Image 2  TV setting 1/640 F5.6 ISO 400 Yo LowLight, I was at Punggol Park around 7am. Thats the time where the sun is still rising so I set ISO to 400. Image result still dark using ISO 400 cause lowlight condition (please view image 1). Den around 7.45am I spotted the kingfisher, but somehow the image is dark the light condition still not that bright and the kingfisher is behind the shade. (please view image 2). All the Image at the top is I mounted on the speedlight to shoot. And why I shot the kingfisher with ISO 400, its not because of the bird is under the shade or the light condition... its because I forgotten to switch back to ISO 100 cos i am using the speedlight. heehee still to me is logical to set at high ISO. Well I don't know all trial and error. |
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Post by Marcus on Feb 26, 2007 22:29:21 GMT 8
Marcus, it's a good attempt. But like what you have mentioned, it was a purely by chance that you encountered the bird, so you aren't fully prepared. Word of advice, when you spotted any Kingfishers, remember to approach it tactically, e.g. approach from his back. You need to understand how shy is KF and how fast it can detect humans present. Nevermind, through experience, you will know the habit of such bird, etc. On top of that, avoid any branches and twists that are in your frame. You may not get a good background but at least don't let those twists, etc to block the front view. We will talk more on this coming Friday Kopi Session. Thanks for the advice USM. I was not tactically enough, and still firing flash at that fella. Maybe it is tried resting on tree no energy to fly. ;D |
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Post by lowlights on Feb 26, 2007 22:40:03 GMT 8
Bro.. you are using TV mode.. but I feel that you have set your shutter speed too high..
Image 1.. 1/400
Image 2 .. 1/640
At ISO 400 with raising sun.. 1/125 to 1/250 should be more than enough to freeze birds in flight.. with aperature at f5.6 it should be sufficent.
IMHO .. try using 1/250 as a start .. this is sufficent to freeze stage performer's action.. then play around with the ISO.
Also you might want to use manual setting..
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Post by broccoli on Feb 26, 2007 22:47:01 GMT 8
1/125 or 1/250 cannot freeze flight motion....you will need minimum of 1/1000s, however this is a guide, you will need higher speed for skittish birds..
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Post by broccoli on Feb 26, 2007 22:52:20 GMT 8
did you use tripod for you shots? for me, my cam is always on tripod for 95% of the time...
as for iso, only during bright sunny day, I will use iso100 or 200, otherwise I will use iso400 or 800...for 7am, I will definitely be using iso800, at the moment I think canon perform exceptionaly well for noise control even at iso800
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Post by broccoli on Feb 26, 2007 22:55:16 GMT 8
as for the flash, about 80% of my pictures are on flash and my flash is only meant for filled flash. I will always set the flash exposure at -2 2/3.
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Post by lowlights on Feb 26, 2007 22:56:07 GMT 8
1/125 or 1/250 cannot freeze flight motion....you will need minimum of 1/1000s, however this is a guide, you will need higher speed for skittish birds.. hahaha... I was wondering when you going to show up.. with shutter of 1/1000 .. then shooting in lowlight condition is going to be quite difficult.. But looking at image 1 the bird is not fly very fast.. why need 1/1000.. by the way.. I am looking at it from a techincal point of view not practical .. as I got no experience shooting birdies yet.. |
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